Tommy Lasorda: No on Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens or Sammy Sosa to the Hall of Fame

“To me, they don’t belong in there. They cheated. That’s the way it is. If my brother did that, I’d say the same thing about my brother. I mean, I know those guys. They’re good friends of mine. But by golly, they didn’t do it the right way. I tell you, it’s a shame. How in the hell could a guy hit 73 friggin’ home runs? I mean, Babe Ruth couldn’t do it.”



 --- Tommy Lasorda, Hall of Fame manager, Los Angeles Dodgers

Barry Bonds vs. The Hall of Fame

Voting shall be based upon the player’s record, playing ability, integrity, sportsmanship, character, and contributions to the team(s) on which the player played.

Baseball Writer's Association of America

Barry Bonds says bygones should be bygones

"I don't even know how to explain it. The world has become so negative. One day, I'll be able to say things the right way. But it's tough when you have so many people out there who don't want to turn the page and want to be angry at you forever. I don't understand why it continues on. What am I doing wrong?"

"I can sit here and say, 'You know what? Baseball is great. I love it.' I can sit here and say in a very kind way that I'm sorry about the way things ended. I can sit here and say that I respect the Hall of Fame, which I do. But I don't understand all the controversy we're having about it. For what reason? What's there to be gained by all of this? What's the point?"

Thom Loverro: No on Barry Bonds

"Bonds, Sosa and Clemens fail on all three counts." - Thom Loverro


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Jeff Kent on the "cloud around" Barry Bonds

Did you ever suspect that Barry Bonds was using performance-enhancing drugs?


Jeff Kent: “Well I think all of us, as baseball players, even the fans, you watch a player evolve into something bigger and better and, as a player, you scratch your head and you go, ‘Wow, really? I mean can that really happen?’ So you don’t really know, but you have in your mind that something’s not right and Barry presented that cloud around himself and kind of got himself in trouble. I’ll try to stay away from that the best I can, but that’s the small soapbox I can stand on about that.”

Barry Bonds loves Lance Armstrong

Barry Bonds defends Lance Armstrong: 

 'He was the greatest cyclist of all'

Barry Bonds, Year 1 with the Giants (1993)

Barry Bonds #25 Left Field 
San Francisco Giants

1993 Statistics:

46 Home Runs 123 RBI's .336 AVE

In time, Barry Bonds should get his bronze plaque

The thorny issue of Barry Bonds’ Cooperstown candidacy


SI.com talks about Barry Bonds:

The wide consensus among voters is that Bonds certainly isn’t going to get in on the first ballot. Unless he receives less than five percent of the vote — highly unlikely given the precedents of McGwire and Palmeiro — he’ll have 14 more years to gain entry. It may be several years before he gets in, but the evolution of the electorate — which began admitting members of the electronic media (such as Rob Neyer, Keith Law, Christina Karhl and even this writer) — in recent years could work in his favor. So too might the pressure on voters to hold their noses and recognize that the Hall is a private institution whose revenue is based upon tourism; a failure to accurately reflect the era as part of baseball history may doom it — and by extension, the voting body — to irrelevance. It certainly won’t be a pretty process, but in time, Bonds should get his bronze plaque.

Barry Bonds vs. Roger Clemens

Roger Clemens is his own manager, lawyer, public relations specialist, strength coach, pitching coach, and now trapeze artist.

Just look at his career. Look at the results:

Career: 354-184 (9th), 3.12 ERA, 4672 SO (3rd), P, 1986 AL MVP, 7xCy, 11xAllStar

How can you argue with the results?

Now, in his most difficult feat of all, he attempts a comeback stunt.

He dislikes being associated with Barry Bonds and Mark McGwire. He dislikes when he hears Barry Bonds say "I'd going to the end of the earth for [Roger]." He dislikes that people laugh at him and will not vote him into Cooperstown.

Roger Clemens wants to end the laughter.



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Barry Bonds vs. Melky Cabrera

Melky Cabrera released the following statement (issued by the MLB Players Association):

"My positive test was the result of my use of a substance I should not have used. I accept my suspension under the Joint Drug Program and I will try to move on with my life. I am deeply sorry for my mistake and I apologize to my teammates, to the San Francisco Giants organization and to the fans for letting them down."

Melky Cabrera 2012 
Batting AVE .346

OBP .390

SLG .516

SUSPENDED: 50 games

"I went through the system. And that's what it is. And that's what I got. I went through the system. I'm in an appeal process right now. I was never convicted of steroids." 

-- Barry Bonds May 29, 2012

Rafael Palmeiro Supports Barry Bonds

Rafael Palmeiro says he believes Barry Bonds and Clemens belong in Hall of Fame


The Truth according to Rafael Palmeiro:

"You're talking about, in my opinion, probably the best pitcher of all-time and the greatest player of all-time. Keep them out and then the Hall of Fame has no credibility."

More Rafy:

"I know what kind of career I had. I'm good with it. I can look at myself in the mirror and feel good and proud of what I accomplished. Clemens and Bonds, 10 years before they retired they were the best players in the game. These guys dominated the game before anything was ever mentioned about anything.”

Barry Bonds the King of Pop in 2007

Barry Bonds without-a-doubt belongs in the Hall

"Oh, without a doubt. There's no doubt in my mind," Barry Bonds responded when asked if he feels he belongs in baseball's Hall of Fame.

More about philosophy, voting and opinions from Barry Bonds to MLB.com:

"You have to vote on baseball the way baseball needs to be voted on. If you vote on your assumptions or what you believe or what you think might have been going on there, that's your problem. You're at fault. It has nothing to do with what your opinion is. Period. If that's the case, you better go way, way back and start thinking about your opinions. If that's how you feel life should be run, I would say then you run your Hall of Fame the way you want to run your Hall of Fame. That's what I think. That's my personal opinion. If you want to do the Hall of Fame the way the Hall of Fame is supposed to be done, then you make the right decision on that. If you don't, that's on you. To stamp something on your assumptions, it doesn't work for me."

Barry Bonds and his edge

"To me, when people say I have an attitude problem, it gives me an edge. It makes me mad, so I play better." Jul 19, 2012 ESPN (blog)

The New Look Barry Bonds

Barry Bonds has been a frequent visitor to San Francisco's AT&T Park over the past few years, so it's not exactly that startling to see him out in public. But baseball's all-time home run leader has caused a bit of a stir on the Internet after being recently spotted in an unexpected destination more than a few long blasts from McCovey Cove.

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Deford: Don't Insult Baseball

"To vote for Bonds and Clemens for the Hall of Fame is, above all, an insult to all the good guys who played fair." --- Frank Deford, Sports Illustrated

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Prosecutors continue to prosecute Barry Bonds

Before a three-judge panel of a federal appeals court this week, United States prosecutors urged the judges to uphold Barry Bonds’ obstruction of justice conviction.

U.S. prosecutors also said that U.S. District Judge Susan Illston properly instructed the jury, despite Bonds’ lawyers arguments.

Additionally:

“Contrary to Bonds’s attempts to interpret it as such, Count Five did not charge him with the act of obstructing justice through particular statements he made to the grand jury, but through intentionally evasive, false, and misleading testimony,” prosecutor Merry Jean Chan wrote.

Babe Ruth, Barry Bonds and other sluggers

Some great sluggers, in their best seasons, have had slugging averages of .700 or more, usually once or twice in a lifetime. Only two players — Babe Ruth and Barry Bonds — ever had a slugging average over .800 in a season. That’s equivalent to two singles, a double and a home run every 10 times at bat, all season long.




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Barry Bonds needs a job

The MLB players’ union is considering a collusion grievance on Barry Bonds’ behalf.

MLB union chief Michael Weiner says: 

"There’s a potential grievance. I’d love to see Barry work in baseball in any capacity he’d like. Barry Bonds is not just a multitalented player but a multitalented individual. It would be wonderful to see him in whatever capacity he’d like to work in."

Flashback: Barry Bonds in Pittsburgh 1992

Barry Bonds, the Pirates and 1992

He had a career year, the year of 1992 with the Pirates: 34 home runs, .311 batting average with a slugging percentage of .677.

It was his last year with the Pirates (signing a then-record contract with the Giants) and the following year with San Francisco, he would post even greater numbers.


Why are people talking about Barry Bonds, the Pittsburgh Pirates and the 1992 MLB baseball season this week?

Because people cannot stop talking about Andrew McCutchen of the Pirates (at this year's MLB All-Star Game) and what he has done this year with his monster season in Pittsburgh. Andrew is making Pirates fans forget about the past 20 years and forget about Barry Bonds.

Andrew McCutchen is the multiskilled, 25-year-old center fielder for the Pirates who was just named National League Player of the Month for June. He is in his fourth season with Pittsburgh. MVP talk is growing. Why shouldn't it? Andrew is currently hitting .362 with 18 home runs so far in the 2012 campaign.


As delirious as Pirates fans are over their team being in first place, they are just as or more so over Andrew McCutchen. Why should they? Everybody likes Andrew McCutchen and he is great in the Pittsburgh community. 


Good luck to Andrew McCutchen the rest of the 2012 baseball season.

2002 MLB All-Star Game When Torii Hunter Robbed Barry Bonds

MLB All-Star Game: Remembering the Night Torii Hunter Robbed Barry Bonds
Bleacher Report
It all happened in the first inning of the game when Barry Bonds came up to the plate to face the American League starting pitcher Derek Lowe with two outs in the first inning. When Bonds sent the Lowe pitch … Hunter would spend parts of eight …

Mr. October says Barry Bonds is not the home run king

Reggie Jackson on Barry Bonds:

 "I believe that Hank Aaron is the home run king, not Barry Bonds, as great a player as Bonds was ... If any of those guys get in, no Hall of Famer will attend." 

Sports Illustrated’s "13th annual Where Are They Now?" issue, July 9, 2012

2002 NL champion San Francisco Giants celebrate 10-year reunion

Team members of the 2002 National League champion San Francisco Giants gathered at AT&T Park on Sunday, receiving ovations from the crowd before the Giants faced the Cincinnati Reds in the finale of a four-game series.

Quotes from Barry Bonds about the reunion:

"That team had a great impact, especially on Dusty's son. Little Darren out there, he was like our good-luck charm. It's good to see him back here, too."  

"Not winning? It doesn't stick with me anymore. Right now, it's just good to see everyone and have a good time. Win or lost, it's nice just to come home and reminisce with each other." 

"Game 6 happened and I don’t even remember Game 7. I remember standing in the shower thinking, ‘What happened?’"

The Reds lost 4-3 to the Giants in the bottom of the ninth on Angel Pagan's fly ball that was badly misplayed into a double by outfielder Jay Bruce.

Another 'No' vote against Barry Bonds

Why I won't vote for Barry Bonds 

By Lowell Cohn
THE PRESS DEMOCRAT

I am writing about Barry Bonds and why, at this time, I don't plan to vote for him for the Baseball Hall of Fame. It is not the first time I've written about this and it won't be the last.


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Roger Clemens belongs in Hall of Fame

.... a YES vote for Roger Clements.

Roger Clemens belongs in Hall of Fame

Baseball's Roger Clemens acquitted of all charges

Baseball's Roger Clemens acquitted of all charges - MLB - SI.com

Acquittal could boost Clemens' Hall bid

NEW YORK—Cleared in court, Roger Clemens will now take his case before a larger jury: some 600 Hall of Fame voters.

Acquittal could boost Clemens' Hall bid

Alex Rodriguez, Lou Gehrig and Barry Bonds

As of today, baseball fans, Alex Rodriguez (Barry Bonds' buddy - see article) sits at 639 career home runs.

We bring this up since Alex Rodriguez re-appeared in the national news when he recently hit his 23rd career grand slam, matching Hall of Famer Lou Gehrig's record.

A-Rod hasn't been in the national news all that frequently since A-Rod hasn't actually been his old home-run-hitting self lately. And lately means the last two years. Only 16 home runs in 2011. But Alex does have 10 home runs this year. Not torrid by any means. Not.

Because he is A-Rod. Because we are talking about the Yankees. Because Alex plays in New York, A-Rod and Barry Bonds will be in the news together a lot during the next five years.

Five years, his remaining contract years with the Yankees.

Can he pass Barry Bonds. Will he pass Barry Bonds and his home run record?

Well, A-Rod better get started soon. As in getting on a 25 home run per year pace for the next five years. Something that didn't come close to happening last year.

"Father Time" is catching up with A-Rod a lot faster than many are recognizing.

If we here at The Barry Bonds Trial had to bet if A-Rod passes Barry Bonds - we would bet no, he does not pass (he does not collect $200 monopoly fans).

Sorry A-Rod, the Yankees and New York. (not really)

Coach Barry Bonds is ready

The 47-year-old home run king visited the Diamondbacks-Giants game on Monday, and looked especially lean and ready at about 212 pounds. Ready for what? Anything to help the Giants he said during his brief interview in the broadcast booth during San Francisco’s 4-2 afternoon game win at AT&T Park.

"If you believe that I can contribute and help the organization, then fine," Bonds said. "If you don't, fine. I'm just saying it's out there."

Mark Cuban is bullish on Facebook and Barry Bonds

Mark Cuban on his recent $5 million Facebook stock purchase: “It’s a trade, not an investment. Kind of like buying a Mickey Mantle, a Hank Aaron and a Barry Bonds rookie card knowing there is a card show in town next week.”


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Barry Bonds and the medical profession

Barry Bonds: 10 years ago sharing his deep concerns for doctors, the medical profession and his hopes for a cure for cancer

"Doctors ought to quit worrying about what ballplayers are taking. What players take doesn't matter. It's nobody else's business. The doctors should spend their time looking for cures for cancer. It takes more than muscles to hit homers. If all those guys were using stuff, how come they're not all hitting homers?" -- Barry Bonds, May 21, 2002, Associated Press

This Day in History – May 22, 2012

2002 – Barry Bonds (San Francisco Giants) hit his 583rd career home run. He tied Mark McGwire for fifth on the all-time list.

Babe Ruth jersey auctioned for a record $4.4 million

Lelands.com, the memorabilia auction house, was the winning bid this month for a record-breaking $4,415,658 for the earliest Yankees jersey worn by Babe Ruth known to still exist. It was a circa 1920 New York Yankees road model he wore during his first season after arriving from the Boston Red Sox.

Is Josh Hamilton Ready for the Barry Bonds HR Record?

Giants Win: Josh Hamilton = Barry Bonds?

Barry Bonds: rambling under oath is not a federal crime

Barry Bonds Defends 'Rambling' in Appeal of Obstruction Conviction

Courthouse News Service

Barry Bonds to Judge: Toss out the whole conviction!

Barry Bonds files appeal

Barry Lamar Bonds' legal team has decided upon a Greek Dodge Ball legal strategy.

His lawyers have asked a federal appeals court to completely (fast) toss out his felony obstruction conviction, saying it was based upon a lot of rambling and more rambling; and in the end not that big of a deal.

Andy Pettitte is not warming up in the bullpen.

Dmitri Young: Not a Barry Bonds fan

DY: It's not the steroid issue, it's the [jerk] issue. To each their own, but when you're on an All-Star team with a guy and your son goes up to him and says he appreciates what you've done and he ignores him and walks off -- I take that personal. Very personal. Of course, even if it came up, he'd deny it. But why would an 11-year-old kid lie? I was a big fan of Barry Bonds before that. I used to defend him and everything. But being persecuted, then to sit there and [be a jerk] to my son. … Yeah. I enjoyed watching him play, but the way he treated people -- I'm not about treating people like crap, regardless of who you are, what you do for a living, I'm not about that.

CBS Sports Article

Extra legal innings for Barry Bonds in the obstruction case

Barry Bonds, this week, has asked for a second extension to file written arguments in his appeal to overturn his obstruction of justice conviction.

Prime reason for the extension? His lawyer has been busy with other cases.

Law School and the Barry Bonds Case

Professor Ted Sampsell-Jones: Bringing the Court to the Classroom | William Mitchell News

Barry Bonds: A Witness?

Bonds, Canseco among potential witnesses | Trial of Roger Clemens | a Chron.com blog

April 12: Barry Bonds

In 2004, on April 12, Barry Bonds hit his 660th home run,

tying Willie Mays. 

Matt Cain: more important than Barry Bonds?

5 reasons the Giants must get Matt Cain signed to a long-term deal

Reliever Clay Hensley with the Giants again

San Francisco Giants notebook: Reliever Clay Hensley hopes to make mark for team that drafted him - San Jose Mercury News

"He knows what I'm capable of," 

Clay Hensley said of manager Bruce Bochy.

George Brett goes negative on steroid users

"I wasn’t a home-run hitter,” Brett said, “but I know from talking to guys in the 500-home run club, guys like Schmitty (Mike Schmidt) and some other guys like that, if those guys make it in then they’ll never go back.” 

Meaning?

 “Meaning those guys will never go back and attend (the Hall of Fame inductions) if the cheaters get elected.” 

A-Rod, Father Time and Barry Bonds

article: A-Rod, 36, fighting Father Time

Ryan Braun strikes out twice in Cactus League debut

Ryan Braun received the Barry Bonds treatment in his opening Spring Training game in Phoenix on Sunday.

The game was played at Milwaukee’s home spring Park - the Maryvale Baseball Park - against the Giants.

Brewers fans gave Braun a standing ovation when he came to bat.

Yet, about half of the nearly 7,000 fans at the park were cheering for the San Francisco Giants. Fans yelled “Ur-ine Sam-ple!” and “Cheater!” at the NL 2011 MVP winner. Braun struck out twice.

The Cactus League game ended in a 1-1 tie.

Has Barry Bonds Cursed the Pittsburgh Pirates?

The Curse of Barry Bonds 

by Tim Williams

Seriously, why don’t we talk about the Pittsburgh Pirates being cursed? The team hasn’t had a winning season since 1992. A lot of that has been due to horrible decisions. But even with horrible decisions, it’s hard to go that long without a winning season, unless you’ve got some bad luck involved.


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The Ryan Braun - Barry Bonds Connection

Off the Wohl: Braun’s innocence could help Bonds - The State Hornet: Sports: bonds, off the wohl, braun, steroids,: Retired baseball legend Barry Bonds is many things to many people. To some he’s a hero of the game. To others he’s a self-righteous blowhard w…

The 10 best things about being a Giants fan

1. Tim Lincecum's windup
2. AT&T Park
3. History is everywhere
4. Croix de Candlestick buttons
5. Kruk and Kuip
6. The uniforms
7. The Crazy Crab
8. We still can appreciate Barry Bonds
9. The community of fans
10. We're not Dodgers fans

via Dave Tobener, of Golden Gate Giants

Barry Bonds Goes Biking in Santa Monica

Barry Bonds Goes Biking With Mystery Female | Terez Owens

Barry Bonds — Free To Swing "Dangerous" Baseball Bats … Again

Barry Bonds has federal approval to pickup a “dangerous weapon” — namely, a baseball bat — thanks to a new court order courtesy of kind Judge Susan Illston.

Curt Shilling casts his vote on Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds

Whether Roger Clemens, an early mentor to him, should be in the Hall of Fame:
"No, he shouldn't. I don't believe any of those who cheated should get votes. You never know when they did and when they didn't. I don't know how much was real. That's just me. I don't think anybody who did it should get in.

"Wait, you said [for years] that you never did it? Now [you say] you did? It's the Pete Rose defense. And you got caught the first time you did it? And how about when you [actually] started? That's a whole other conversation. It's just very black and white: They got caught doing it, they're out. Unfortunately, some of my friends and teammates are on that list and it makes me disappointed they made that decision. It doesn't make me like them less. Now, Barry Bonds? How can you even remotely consider that guy a nice guy?"

Sports Illustrated interview

Clay Hensley: who yielded No. 755 to Barry Bonds is a Giant

Right-handed reliever Clay Hensley, who yielded the Barry Bonds home run that tied Henry Aaron, has agreed to a one-year, $750,000 contract with the San Francisco Giants.

Hensley is well-known and well liked by both GM Brian Sabean and manager Bruce Bochy. Why wouldn't Sabean and Bochy not like Hensley. They both witnessed #755 sail out of AT&T Park. The next day, Hensley was optioned to the minor leagues.

In 2005, Clay was suspended 15 games for testing positive for steroids while pitching in the minor leagues.

It is once again great to be a part of the Clay Hensley project!

Tim Lincecum: More Valuable Than Barry Bonds

Congratulations Tim Lincecum!

With your new 2-year contract valued at $40.5 milllion - you are the highest paid member of the San Francisco Giants on an annual basis. Ever!

Your contract is more valuable than the $18 million that Barry Bonds and Barry Zito both averaged with their contracts.

Pat Caputo won't vote for Barry Bonds for the Hall of Fame

Why I won't vote for Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens or Sammy Sosa for the Hall of Fame

Barry Bonds Fun Facts

An Incomplete Collection Of Barry Bonds Fun Facts - Baseball Nation

The HOF meaning of Barry Larkin for Barry Bonds

Barry Larkin, shortstop for the Cincinnati Reds, got the call on Monday. It was a beautiful call and the call that he was hoping for after playing a round of golf in the morning.

"I'm just incredibly, incredibly moved by this whole experience and so humbled by the experience and so excited about being the newest member of the Hall of Fame," Larkin said.


Barry Larkin will be inducted into baseball's Hall of Fame this summer.

Congratulations, Barry Larkin!


The former Reds shortstop was selected on 495 of 573 ballots (86 percent) in voting announced by the Baseball Writers' Association of America. Above the 75 percent vote necessary for induction. This was the third year Barry Larkin was on the ballot.


What is the meaning of Barry Larkin's Hall of Fame vote for the MLB all-time home run leader, Barry Bonds?


Well, we could do an apples and oranges comparison between the two Barry's: one is an infielder, one is an outfielder; one is a hitter for average, one is a slugger, etc., etc.

But that would grow tiresome quickly.


All we know is that the Baseball Writers' Association of America is being very selective these days with its votes. Very selective. Except for the ballot stuffing efforts of Jason Stark, of course.

In fact, for some players, it is not about being selective, it is about being completely ignored.

Mark McGwire, 10th on the home run list, received 19.5% of the vote this year. Rafael Palmeiro, also a 500 home run club member, received 12.6% of the vote. Ignored. Well below 75 percent.

What will this mean for Barry Bonds and his friends Roger Clemens, Mike Piazza and Sammy Sosa? Will they be ignored like Mark and Rafael? Bets are on the Ignore side for round 1 next year.


Bud Selig, enjoy the Hall of Fame induction of Barry Larkin this summer.

Albert Pujols to receive $7 million for breaking the Barry Bonds home run record

Inside Albert Pujols' new $240+ million contract with the Los Angeles Angels are a number of interesting details.

For interested readers of The Barry Bonds Trial blog: a Barry Bonds home run record contract clause was disclosed.

Albert Pujols will receive $7 million for career homer No. 763, which would break Barry Bonds on the all-time MLB home run list.

Albert Pujols has already achieved career statistics of .328 BA, 445 HR, 1329 RBI, and a .420 OBP during his first ten years in the league.

Barry Bonds, the Hall of Justice and WAAS

Four players in MLB history are over 100 WAAS:

Babe Ruth (123.9), Barry Bonds (118.9), Willie Mays (104.3) and Ty Cobb (103.4). The lower level at which players should make Cooperstown depends on how big a Hall you want. At its current size of roughly 200 former major leaguers, 20 WAAS is a reasonable cutoff point for consideration. 

ESPN the Magazine; 1/9/2012

Wins Above All-Star Level (WAAS) 

Is it Hall of Fame time for Barry Bonds?

To properly anticipate the upcoming 2013 Hall of Fame vote, and the individual vote on Barry Bond's membership, all baseball fans need the 2012 Baseball Hall of Fame wall calendar.

This will allow baseball fans to do several things over the course of the year. 1. remember our baseball Hall of Famers, 2. enjoy the 2012 baseball season, and of course 3. anticipate and countdown to the 2013 Hall of Fame vote for or against Barry Lamar Bonds.

Happy New Year, Barry Bonds!

Let's face it, 2011 was a great year for Barry Lamar Bonds. 

A perjury conviction didn't happen in 2011. It was one vote short.

A conviction of obstructing a U.S. probe of steroid use did happen.

However, United States prosecutors asked Judge Susan Illston to send the slugger Barry Bonds to prison. That didn't come close to happening.

Judge Susan Illston, apparently a long-time San Francisco Giants fan, let those feelings manifest themselves into a nice home team victory for the MLB all-time leader in walks. And did he walk.

Nice Judge Susan sentenced Bonds to two years probation and 30 days home confinement and 250 hours of community service.

What a 2011 for the slugger!

What will 2012 bring for Barry Lamar Bonds?

Well, Hall of Fame decisions must be made for the 2013 induction. Both Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens are eligible for Hall induction next year. The Baseball Writers Association of America will evaluate their overall worthiness. So shall we. It should be an interesting 2012 for Barry Bonds.